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Why is J.R.R. Tolkien's Lord of the Rings considered to be such a classic?

December 06, 2019 07:17 AM

All 12 answers so far essentially telling the boss to fuck off. However, he is running a business, not a charity. That’s why he is rightfully expecting to own anybody whom he employs.

Although I know it might be difficult in some countries to fire left and right, here is what to do:

  1. Label that person “not a team player”. (Also label “not a team player” anybody who is arrogant enough to think that you don’t own him/her)
  2. Take away all interesting projects these people do and start loading them hard with the dirtiest mundane work nobody else wants to do. Make it in such a way, that people who transfer the work are his/her new management. They are supposed to expect strict subordination, etc.
  3. Make sure that you overload that person – give enough to do so he/she has no choice as to work overtime. See, if work is any creative burned out employee’s productivity suffers greatly, but if work is mindless, repetitive – burn out almost doesn’t affect the performance.
  4. If person decides to quit – make sure you communicate to everybody that his/her performance slipped so much that you had no choice but let that employee grand his wish to leave.

bikash mahapatra

That's a question with a long answer, which I don't have time for, but I'll give you the 2 minute version.

It's not about the races, or the references to the destruction of the English countryside. Academic enthusiasm for it really has very little to do with conventional fantasy tropes at all. It's about the depth behind every sentence on the page. Most fantasy authors make up some gibberish and call it a language, and make up some place-names likewise, and call it done. For them the goal is to get the plot hammered out and sell their book.

Here's what Tolkien actually did. Before and during the First World War, he began inventing languages for fun, because he was a linguistic genius and he could just do that. Then he decided to invent a history that would explain how those languages came to exist. That required a map, so he created a map, and a long series of legends (now called The Silmarillion) to go with it. And he used his incredibly extensive knowledge of Finnish and Welsh and Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian language and legend, and he borrowed the names of the dwarves from the Icelandic sagas and the stories from the Finnish Kalevala and his unbelievable depth of reading and linguistic skill went into it all.

Then he tried to publish it, and his friends said, "no way in hell, this stuff is too arcane, nobody cares about your invented languages and map and legends and so on."

Then he wrote a fun little children's story called The Hobbit, set in his world. He gave it to Sir Stanley Unwin of the book publishers Allen & Unwin, and he gave it to his kid Rayner Unwin to look at, and his kid read it and wrote this:

"Bilbo Baggins was a Hobbit who lived in his Hobbit hole and never went for adventures, at last Gandalf the wizard and his Dwarves persuaded him to go. He had a very exiting (sic) time fighting goblins and wargs. At last they get to the lonely mountain; Smaug, the dragon who guards it is killed and after a terrific battle with the goblins he returned home — rich!
This book, with the help of maps, does not need any illustrations it is good and should appeal to all children between the ages of 5 and 9."

On the basis of this recommendation, Sir Stanley agreed to publish it. It was a hit. People loved it and asked for more stories about hobbits.

So he started another fun little children's story, only his mind was working all the time, and it just got longer and deeper and darker and more grownup as he went, right through the Second World War. Then when he reached the end he had to go back and fix a lot of things, because it wasn't a children's story any more.

But almost every single thing in The Lord of the Rings is built on something he had created decades previously, and that itself was built on centuries of myth and legend from Northern Europe.

When the Riders of Rohan sing, they sing in Anglo-Saxon alliterative verse. When the elves speak, they speak in a language that actually works. Even the Ring-inscription, which is almost all we have of the Black Speech, has correct verb tenses:

Ash nazg durbatuluk
One ring to rule them all
Ash nazg gimbatul
One ring to find them
Ash nazg thrakatuluk
One ring to bring them all
Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul!
And in the darkness [to] bind them.

So -uk obviously adds all to the sense of the transitive verb. -ul- is them, the object of the verb, and -at- makes it infinitive: to rule. The root words are durb, gimb, thrak, and krimp, which probably not coincidentally means bind. All this just for a language of which we only have nine words!

So far as I know, nobody else does this, or even comes close to doing this. Of course many people don't care, but this is what amazes his more ardent fans.

December 06, 2019 07:26 AM
bikash mahapatra

This is interesting. I’m sure academics care. But how does any of that matter to the millions of readers who make Tolkien popular?

December 06, 2019 07:29 AM
Zombie Man

You sound like a work slave, not an employee. There may very well be places of employment like this in the USA, but thank G-d I don’t work for one of those. You provide a service to your company in exchange for pay. They don’t own you. If they won’t change then the solution is to look for another

December 06, 2019 07:33 AM
Sarthak Pattnaik

Testing

December 11, 2019 09:33 AM
bikash mahapatra

My ex wife worked for a company (a famous international confectionary company). She was casual and was authorised to work 20 hours a week. They paid her above award wages - more than they had to pay her. In return they gave her 30 hours worth of work to do in those 20 hours. When she said that she couldn’t complete the 30 hours work in 20 hours they argued that she should put in a bit extra because they were paying above the award wages. She said that if it took her 320 hours could she claim 30 hours wages. They said no as she was only authorised to work 20 hours.

December 06, 2019 10:13 AM
Zombie Man

Soul inside us never dies even when we die.The Soul is a part of man which is little known and only seldom realized. Often those in the depths of deep sorrow break through the mist of material sense to the recesses of their inmost being, where they discover the Soul or Reality of being.They become Soul -conscious and find new values, new resources, new and different strength. I through the help of my Guru ( who name is Ashutosh varshney a reknowed Astrologer of prayagraj , the sangam city , Allahabad.) experienced my inner soul and from that time all my sadness of life disappeared . This was the turning point of my life. With his full guidance and Astrology remedies, i got confident and fearless, i worked hard day and night , i paid all my debts, i recovered my health ,wealth and fame. Knowledge of Soul is Very Important for success in this life and also for the lives ahead of this life , if you believe in soul ,Please up-vote and follow. May all readers get success in life. , achieving and fulfilling their goals/wishes by the power of universal soul,GOD.

December 06, 2019 10:16 AM
Zombie Man

December 06, 2019 12:59 PM
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That’s a question with a long answer, which I don’t have time for, but I’ll give you the 2 minute version.

It’s not about the races, or the references to the destruction of the English countryside. Academic enthusiasm for it really has very little to do with conventional fantasy tropes at all. It’s about the depth behind every sentence on the page. Most fantasy authors make up some gibberish and call it a language, and make up some place-names likewise, and call it done. For them the goal is to get the plot hammered out and sell their book.

Here’s what Tolkien actually did. Before and during the First World War, he began inventing languages for fun, because he was a linguistic genius and he could just do that. Then he decided to invent a history that would explain how those languages came to exist. That required a map, so he created a map, and a long series of legends (now called The Silmarillion) to go with it. And he used his incredibly extensive knowledge of Finnish and Welsh and Anglo-Saxon and Scandinavian language and legend, and he borrowed the names of the dwarves from the Icelandic sagas and the stories from the Finnish Kalevala and his unbelievable depth of reading and linguistic skill went into it all.

Then he tried to publish it, and his friends said, “no way in hell, this stuff is too arcane, nobody cares about your invented languages and map and legends and so on.”

Then he wrote a fun little children’s story called The Hobbit, set in his world. He gave it to Sir Stanley Unwin of the book publishers Allen & Unwin, and he gave it to his kid Rayner Unwin to look at, and his kid read it and wrote this:

“Bilbo Baggins was a Hobbit who lived in his Hobbit hole and never went for adventures, at last Gandalf the wizard and his Dwarves persuaded him to go. He had a very exiting (sic) time fighting goblins and wargs. At last they get to the lonely mountain; Smaug, the dragon who guards it is killed and after a terrific battle with the goblins he returned home — rich!
This book, with the help of maps, does not need any illustrations it is good and should appeal to all children between the ages of 5 and 9.”

On the basis of this recommendation, Sir Stanley agreed to publish it. It was a hit. People loved it and asked for more stories about hobbits.

So he started another fun little children’s story, only his mind was working all the time, and it just got longer and deeper and darker and more grownup as he went, right through the Second World War. Then when he reached the end he had to go back and fix a lot of things, because it wasn’t a children’s story any more.

But almost every single thing in The Lord of the Rings is built on something he had created decades previously, and that itself was built on centuries of myth and legend from Northern Europe.

When the Riders of Rohan sing, they sing in Anglo-Saxon alliterative verse. When the elves speak, they speak in a language that actually works. Even the Ring-inscription, which is almost all we have of the Black Speech, has correct verb tenses:

Ash nazg durbatuluk
One ring to rule them all
Ash nazg gimbatul
One ring to find them
Ash nazg thrakatuluk
One ring to bring them all
Agh burzum-ishi krimpatul!
And in the darkness [to] bind them.

So -uk obviously adds all to the sense of the transitive verb. -ul- is them, the object of the verb, and -at- makes it infinitive: to rule. The root words are durb, gimb, thrak, and krimp, which probably not coincidentally means bind. All this just for a language of which we only have nine words!

So far as I know, nobody else does this, or even comes close to doing this. Of course many people don’t care, but this is what amazes his more ardent fans.

  • bikash mahapatra
    December 6, 2019 7:29 am

    This is interesting. I’m sure academics care. But how does any of that matter to the millions of readers who make Tolkien popular?

  • Zombie Man
    December 6, 2019 7:33 am

    You sound like a work slave, not an employee. There may very well be places of employment like this in the USA, but thank G-d I don’t work for one of those. You provide a service to your company in exchange for pay. They don’t own you. If they won’t change then the solution is to look for another

  • Sarthak Pattnaik
    December 11, 2019 9:33 am

    Testing

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My ex wife worked for a company (a famous international confectionary company).

She was casual and was authorised to work 20 hours a week.

They paid her above award wages – more than they had to pay her.

In return they gave her 30 hours worth of work to do in those 20 hours.

When she said that she couldn’t complete the 30 hours work in 20 hours they argued that she should put in a bit extra because they were paying above the award wages.

She said that if it took her 320 hours could she claim 30 hours wages. They said no as she was only authorised to work 20 hours.

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Soul inside us never dies even when we die.The Soul is a part of man which is little known and only seldom realized.

Often those in the depths of deep sorrow break through the mist of material sense to the recesses of their inmost being, where they discover the Soul or Reality of being.They become Soul -conscious and find new values, new resources, new and different strength.

I through the help of my Guru ( who name is Ashutosh varshney a reknowed Astrologer of prayagraj , the sangam city , Allahabad.) experienced my inner soul and from that time all my sadness of life disappeared . This was the turning point of my life. With his full guidance and Astrology remedies, i got confident and fearless, i worked hard day and night , i paid all my debts, i recovered my health ,wealth and fame. Knowledge of Soul is Very Important for success in this life and also for the lives ahead of this life , if you believe in soul ,Please up-vote and follow.

May all readers get success in life. , achieving and fulfilling their goals/wishes by the power of universal soul,GOD.

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